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9 years 8 months ago #3936 by allan
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Thanks for the welcome. I am still very new at all this coffee stuff, and hope to learn from all the experienced people here.
I realise your CX-25 is a little different from your average stove-top, but the diagrams lead me to believe it operates on much the same principle. So I hope my suggestions translate.
Let me know how it all goes.

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9 years 8 months ago #3937 by canuk_guy
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Hi Allen,

That is the process I use for my moka pot or stovetop as I usually call it (right or wrong that's what I call it). I got my process from that site I think (not sure exactly as I bounced around to so many places working out ideas). Good music too I thought. I think I will add that link to my thread on my moka pot if you don't mind. It will fit there perfectly with what I am doing now.

The Bellman is of a different nature. I tried the hot water in the boiler thing and the coffee was very weak. Letting it do it's thing on the stove from cold water in the boiler to completion it was much better, stronger coffee. It is however still not quite up to even moka pot strength. I thought it might be at least there or maybe a stronger brew. I don't know if I'm expecting too much from it, but it is fun seeing what I can do with it.

Cheers, Guy :side:
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9 years 8 months ago #3943 by canuk_guy
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I gave those espresso beans I bought a run through my moka pot. They're not bad. They make a pretty decent coffee, much stronger than what I have been getting from my Bellman so far. I could add water to it to have a pretty decent Americano.

So the bean question is answered. At least somewhat. What I have been using so far in the Bellman should make a pretty decent strength coffee.

I guess I'll mess with the grind I'm using in the Bellman to see if that changes things up a bit.

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9 years 8 months ago - 9 years 8 months ago #3945 by canuk_guy
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Some success today with the Bellman. I used the finest grind my grinder will produce. Then I tapped the basket down to get the grounds to settle and topped it up tapping every now and then to get it nice and even on the top. The extract came out pretty well. Then I blew it with the steamed milk ... too much heat and I burnt it a little.

So I'm going to toy around with the grind and maybe getting things tamped down a bit. See if that will get this sorted out some.

Question though ... when I open the coffee valve I get a *lot* of steam coming through. It's more like a rush of steam with coffee than a flow. Is that normal for this thing? I expected it to be more of a flow of coffee and then steam sputtering at the end.

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9 years 8 months ago - 9 years 8 months ago #3947 by canuk_guy
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Well I am having a full on Monday morning. First thing I do is spill my coffee. :dry: Yup, believe it. Spilled the whole thing even before I get a chance to enjoy it. The look on my face was awesome. Just like a kid that drops the scoop of ice cream from his cone onto the ground … just like the guy who has his first ice cold beer of the day slide through his fingers because the bottle is slippery from the condensation of the cold bottle. I din't cry though … wanted to. Settled on the more adult approach of using a few not so nice words (you figure it out, I know you can). :angry:

Sooooo, I have a still very hot moka pot sitting there. Too hot to take apart to make another coffee right away. Next to me is my Bellman (from now on aka Bell). And you know I have been struggling with this one. Not quite up to moka pot (from now on aka Kitty) standards for coffee strength and as things were unfolding so far, and I wanted, nay *needed* a good strong cuppa coffee.

Yesterday I mentioned that I was having a good bit of steam along with the coffee coming from Bell. It wasn't a flow of coffee, it was a steam-coffee combination. I figured that meant I was losing pressure someplace inside and not all the pressure was being used to force the water through the coffee basket. Pretty smrt of me huh? :blink: So I spent some time rummaging through the box Bell came in. Went over the instructions again for the umpteenth time and pondered at the diagram of all the bits that make up Bell. In the box I find a washer of sorts. It's cylindrical. Where does this one go? Check the schematic. Not there. Check online schematics. Not there. There is pretty much only one place I can figure I'm losing pressure, and that's straight up the middle of the unit past the shaft. So what the heck. I put it on the top and it crushes down on around the shaft of the brew basket. I don't know if this is the right place for it as it seems a poor design for that location, but it did the trick.

Gave Bell another go on the stove and voila. No steam with the coffee flow. And a good strong brew came through. I'd say it was at least as strong as Kitty will do, maybe even just a tad stronger. I will have to mess around with the grind to see if I can tune that up a bit.

I gave this one two tries, as I really really really needed my coffee this morning. Even tried to froth up some milk with some moderate success.

So from a crappy start to my day I had something good turn out. And then my computer started giving me grief … I lost the first draft of this post … a program decided to get glitchie on me. Gotta love Monday mornings.

Cheers, Guy :side:
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9 years 8 months ago #3950 by canuk_guy
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Well guys I gotta tell ya ... I think I'm on track with Bell. I fixed me up 3 coffees from it today. Maybe I should explain that a little better. I made 3 – 6 cup servings for myself. Holy crap caffeine load or what!!!! It sure made the afternoon fly by, but it sure did not help any in the writing department. I had to write up some notes for myself on a few things I need to note for myself. :unsure: Did I mention the caffeine load? I could barely read what I had scribbled out.

Anyhoo … must take it easy on the number of coffees I make with Bell now that I am on track with it. Might have to invite some friends and experiment on them … uh I mean, make some coffee for. Ya that's it.

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