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13 years 3 months ago #2202 by M Richardson
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It is strange to go to a cafe and realize that you are being laughed at, which is what happened when I had the poor sense to ask at cafe fantastico if they would pour me an allongee. Perhaps its my European sensibilities, but I know coffee and I like an allongee. Not only does the coffee last longer in my cup...oh wait, I don't need to justify my taste. Too bad Fantastico are just power-tripping coffee jocks with a 'my way or the highway' attitude. I didn't realized the Mayflower had landed and that Victoria was the Plymouth Rock of the coffee drinking west. Grow up, guys. Its just a bean.
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13 years 3 months ago #2203 by colin
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I love the coffee beans at Cafe Fantastico....

that said, I have not purchased a beverage
or anything even remotely unique to \"me\"
in... what seems like a couple of years.

It is just not worth it for the
attitude you get.

I had one of the staff screeching at me
one afternoon -- granted I had kind of
brought it on myself after buying
a bag of \"CAF\" coffee and 1/2-CAF
when they refused to sell me the
same blend I had been buying for the
previous 3 years!

I re-bagged it at the counter and
the gal behind the counter went
totally ballistic on me.
We laughed it off after.

The problem at CF is. There are some really
self-important people there (a very few) and
some very normal staff...
and the normal staff just whistle and roll their
eyes when a staff member goes OFF on someone.

And dont get me started on Ryan.
He is one of the smartest people in the
business but does not appear to have a clue
about the people he has hired.

As one other local guru reminded me:

\"Ya gotta let these cafes do their thing...
they are trying to make a living here..
If you dont like ONE cafe, then walk to the
next one...\"

Despite his bombastic approach to coffee,
he is right.
If you dont like the Nazi's at CF...
move on.

There are better places in Victoria.
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13 years 3 months ago #2204 by colin
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Word on the street has it that HABIT plans to give CF a run for the money in the Attitude department.

Not surprising considering that one of the partners at HABIT was trained by CF.


I retract the above statement upon re-reading it a few times. HABIT CAFE is nothing like CF and apologize to Shane D. and crew for this comment.
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13 years 3 months ago #2205 by M Richardson
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Thanks for the tips.

I was just a little taken aback by the attitude, cause usually barristas are enthusiastic about what they are making you. Attitude isn't something people necessarily wear on their sleeves and can sneak up on you.

Funny you should mention it, I had a similar experience at HABit. Except this time I was the phillistine who asked not for an allongee but for drip coffee. Only French Press. The reason: bleached filters. Weird.

I will certainly find different coffee shops to go to; its not as though one bad coffee shop will make me stop drinking the black elixir.

Its just a snobbishness that I am not used to running into in such a way.

Usually the rivalries of taste are inter-cafe ones, or between customers of differing tastes, not usually aimed at the customers themselves. My sense is that the Starbucks style customer service, where they are trained in elaborate drink calling and can NEVER say no to you, has poisoned a little of the staff out here. There is just no reason to refuse to run a shot longer if you know what you are doing.

Regardless of this, your website has been informative about where to go to get a decent cup around here. Its nice to have such a resource, and thanks for taking the time to lemme know I was not being singled out at CF.
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13 years 3 months ago #2207 by colin
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M Richardson wrote:

Thanks for the tips.

Its nice to have such a resource, and thanks for taking the time to lemme know I was not being singled out at CF.


Hey. Now that I am in my 40's, I find that I am slowly becoming completely invisible to young people.. and that includes a fair number of coffee people...

So pat yourself on the back when you get on their radar!

There are so many interesting places to get java on Vancouver Island. Some, like Coyote in Nanaimo and Discovery on Discovery @ Douglas and 2% Jazz are just SO Much better than the rest, you would think that the crappy ones would take a chapter or two from the good ones.

Yea. There is lots of good stuff here. Ignore the rest.
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13 years 3 months ago #2210 by scoobydoo
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I've been a few places around town.
CF has been one of my worse experience so much so I haven't been back there for a few years. Habit I haven't been there yet.

I'm a regular at Discovery as I have had nothing but excellent experience there with the staff and getting a wealth of information from Logan and Sam.

I've been to JJ beans, Elysian Room and Artigiano and still Discovery is my favorite place.

Coyote I have heard nothing praises about, so maybe a day trip up to Naniamo is in order.

that's my two cents.
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